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formerfundie
08-07-2007, 01:43 AM
Deut 25:11-12
11 If men get into a fight with one another, and the wife of one intervenes to rescue
her husband from the grip of his opponent by reaching out and seizing his genitals,
12 you shall cut off her hand; show no pity.
discuss. :D
David
08-07-2007, 10:43 AM
That just makes total sense. You wouldn't want women to run amok grabbing men's genitals to save their husbands! :rolleyes:
OldChurchGuy
08-08-2007, 08:04 PM
Deut 25:11-12
11 If men get into a fight with one another, and the wife of one intervenes to rescue
her husband from the grip of his opponent by reaching out and seizing his genitals,
12 you shall cut off her hand; show no pity.
discuss. :D
Here are some interesting interpretations:
http://jss.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/49/1/47 - an interesting interpretation that the word is not "hand"
http://www.marccortez.com/resources/violent_intervention.pdf - A 12 page article that concludes the severity of the punishment is due to the fact men were seen as the only source for progeny. Hurt his testicles and you keep him from having children thus damaging the clan or tribes numbers.
The following is lifted from this link: http://ecclesia.org/truth/rj.html
In Deuteronomy 25:11-12, no woman, in defending her husband who is fighting with another man, can attempt to aid her husband by mutilating the other man's penis. This is the only instance in scriptural law where mutilation (cutting of the woman's hand) is the punishment, and its significance is of central importance. A wife is under God to be a help-meet to her husband, but only and always under God's Law. In a quarrel between two men, she could not take unfair advantage of her husband's assailant. Faith requires staying within the law of God, and a woman can never help her husband lawlessly. If such were permitted, then a man could step aside and let his wife break the law for him with impunity. A lawless love is under the sentence of the law.
In the case of the lawless wife, the fact of mutilation was a grim public warning; a lawless hand or help-meet was no hand or help at all. Her mutilated hand was a grim reminder to all of the prohibition of lawless love. She was not to be pitied, for pity must also move in terms of law, or it becomes the condonation of evil. Pity must never become lawless.
The principle of capital punishment is involved here. Life is created by God, governed by His Law, and to be lived only in terms of His Word. Neither the parents nor the State are the creators of life, and therefore they cannot fix the terms of life. The failure of the law to execute the professional criminal is creating a major crisis and leading increasingly to anarchy.
Frankly, I was surprised at the number of Christian web sites that either left out this verse in their commentary or left it in with no comment whatsoever.
I have no idea where the truth lies, but I really have trouble believing htat this verse is translated correctly. But, maybe that is why I would not make a good fundamentalist. :)
OldChurchGuy
phrog
08-09-2007, 06:16 PM
When you have 'em by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.
Unbeliever
08-12-2007, 05:02 PM
That just makes total sense. You wouldn't want women to run amok grabbing men's genitals to save their husbands! :rolleyes:
If she was my wife, I would!
:fight:
minorwork
09-11-2007, 10:44 PM
Pretty ballsy thread.
Stumpy
09-15-2007, 07:27 PM
If I'm getting my ass kicked, I don't care what she grabs if she's trying to protect me.
If I'm kicking ass and she just reaches in to cop a feel she's gonna get the pimp hand.
:D
deltagear
09-18-2007, 06:42 AM
If I'm kicking ass and she just reaches in to cop a feel she's gonna get the pimp hand.
Keep it strong brotha!
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